This article proves by comparitive imagery that Pakals Tomblid is not a spaceship. We see the same depiction in the Maya Codices clearly a tree, bird , snake or snakes and sacrificial victim. This will be further ellaborated on.


Codex Vindobonensis Mexicanus






Codex Borgia

Codex Borgia


Codex Borgia 2


Selden Codex page 2


Maize and the World Tree: (L) detail from the lid of Pakal’s sarcophagus, late Classic period, Palenque, Mexico. (R) Detail from the Codex Borgia, pl. 53. Drawings by Simon Martin


Dresden Codex


Codex Laud

Codex Laud



Study  by Stijn van den Hoven identifying the symbolism.

Hesperus is phosporus (Evening and Morning star)


Read later this publication:



Although cosmic tree symbolism among pre-Columbian societies of Mesoamerica traces from the Preclassic period, the underlying meaning of the motif and its symbolic permutations are poorly understood. Attempts to identify the plant in a botanical context on ceramic vessels, stucco reliefs, and stone stelae of lowland Maya attribution usually favor determinations as a kapok tree (Ceiba pentandra) or maize plant (Zea mays). A botanical assessment of the morphic and ecological characteristics of these motifs suggests, however, a white-flowered water lily of lowland swamps, Nymphaea ampla. Archeological remains at San Bartolo of the Petén indicate that these iconographic practices were established and codified to a certain extent by the first century b.c. The frequent identification of various gods and dynastic rulers as personifications of a water lily world tree underscores the crucial symbolic and ritualistic roles this plant once played in the practice of religion and kingship among Mayan civilizations.

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Rock relief of Aslantaş, Göynüş Valley in Turkey, is a depiction of Potnia Theron

One of the things I discovered, as a theory,  is that the rock relief of Aslantaş, Göynüş Valley in Turkey, is a depiction of Potnia Theron.  The head is missing, the cave is the womb of the figure at the exact level of the womens genitals, where the legs end.  I disagree with the current tomb explanation. This is the proposed depiction, the head blown up or destroyed.

As far as I am aware this has never been published anywhere by anyone, but please do let me know if it has.



More reference pictures for comparison:

Image: Potnia Theron depiction

Image: Minoan seal with Godess

Some also show a slit for the vagina (at place of womb) as seen in this image:

Other images of Potnia Theron


Image: Gold seal Ishtar as Mistress of Animals Turkmenistan ca 2000-BC Schaffhausen

Mycenean Lionsgate

I suspect this is also the reason for the Mycenean Lionsgate Altar “slit” shown here below,  The pillar is also a deiction of the mother godess like Asherot,  but trying to explain and link the symbolism of the lionsgate  is for another time to discuss and not in scope of this article, even though these links is what I suggest here.

Image for scale and debries rocks shattered around it. Could this be the missing head.

An archeological survey of the site is needed to prove this theory and if perhaps parts of the original head, or traces of destruction of the head can be found at the site nearby in broken rocks. The other lion tomb is completely destroyed in pieces next to it. Further onsite research will prove if my theory was correct.

Noteworthy is that this is currently an Islamic country and that the site and head might have been deliberately destroyed in the past because of the “non idol worship” of Islam.




The lost island of Chryse in Lemnos Greece

A real “sunken  island” in the vicinity of Troy

Article by Stijn van den Hoven / 2018/11/07

The lost island of Chryse, Greece, was “rediscovered” in the 1960’s by amateur archeologist Marquis Piero Nicola and identified with the Karos bank.


However after I did some research of my own on the subject it is actualy listed on maps from 1809 from the island of Lemnos in Greece shown here:

Image:  Carte de l’ile de Lemnos – Choiseul-gouffier Gabriel Florent Auguste De – 1809

GPS Location of the sunken island / Karos Bank

39°55’0″ N

25°33’0″ E

Quote: “Kharos Bank (Kharos Bank) is a reef(s) (class H – Hydrographic) in (Greece (general)), Greece (Europe) with the region font code of Eastern Europe…
Kharos Bank is also known as Ifaloi Keros, Ifaloi Kharos, Keros Bank, Kharos Bank, Kéros Bank, Ífaloi Kéros.

Its coordinates are 39°55’0″ N and 25°33’0″ E in DMS (Degrees Minutes Seconds) or 39.9167 and 25.55 (in decimal degrees). Its UTM position is LE71 and its Joint Operation Graphics reference is NJ35-02.”


Chryse means “golden” in greek ,  At a 12 meter dive it should make for some pretty interesting ruins of for example a temple of Appolo as the area is 10x10miles.

I do have more information on this which is not published here online. As far as I know no official further archeological research has been done at this particular spot and it would make an interesting location to pursue further.




Notes: Tyrus/Atlantis

Storm gods and Serpents

This article is a preliminary study into storm gods and serpents nemesis across cultures. So many cultures had a storm god as their main god, all of them battled a serpent.


Jaweh battled a snake, Tiamat.







Ba`al and Yam (Caanite)

Krishna overcomes Kaliya (indian)

Indra vs Vitra (Indian)

Vishnu vs Ananta-Shesha (indian) 





Tarhunt and the dragon Illuyanka (hittite)

Apep vs Ra (Egypt)





Atum and the snake Apophis

Set speared Apep

Horus (hero)  vs sobek  (Egypt) (Horus under the form of a horseman piercing a crocodile with his spear, louvre museum)






Zeus vs Typhon (Greek)






Thor vs Jörmungandr’s (Nors)

Marduk or Bel vs Tiamat (Sumerian)





Hadad vs Têmtum (Mesopotamia)

Baʿal vs Lôtān  (Canaanite /Syrian) or Tannin (Tannin is sometimes associated with Tiamat and, in modern Hebrew, the name tannin means CROCODILE)

Melqart (milqartu, tutelary god of city of phoenician city of Tyre)

Teshub (hittite) vs  Illuyanka/Heddamu (Hurian)

Taru (Hattic)

Taranis (Celtic)

Heracles/Hercules vs Hydra

Dionysus identies him with

Belus (euphrates)

Ammon (lybia)

Apis (nile)

Cronus (arabia)

Assyrian Zeus

Ser-Apis (Osiris Apis)



Delphic Apollo


The snake and phallus were symbols of Dionysus in ancient Greece, and of Bacchus in Greece and Rome.[72][73][74] He typically wears a panther or leopard skin and carries a Thyrsus – a long stick or wand topped with a pine cone. His iconography sometimes include maenads, who wear wreaths of ivy and serpents around their hair or neck.[75][76][77]



St. Michael / George and the Dragon







Jaweh vs Levithian Hebrew)








Hydra vs Hercules (Greek)





Dragon vs St. George (Europe, this particularly in st. mark square, Venice)






Imdugud vs Ninurta  (Sumeria)

Balaur vs Făt-Frumos (Romanian)

Worldwide iconographic relations of Medusa to Kali, Kirthimukha, KaliMukha and Chaupiñamca, Coatlicue, Melusine

Observation made by Stijn van den Hoven

KaliMukha, Kirthimukha (temple faces) are identical to the Medusa and Kali imagery and seen in many other cultures as well as a fanged monster, mostly associated with serpents or serpent hair. We even see the same karakter back in the Chavin culture, with fangs, snake hair and recognizable earrings. In meso american art she is either Coatlicue,  daughter Coyolxauhqui (moon godess with brother Huitzilopochtli, sun ) or Chaupiñamca

Dominant inconographic features are:

  • Tongue sticking out
  • Wide spread fish tails like provoking open  legs of a women. These fishtails we see back in Kirtimukha face where the eyes are the boobs.
  • Necklace of hands and skulls or garland of hands and skulls,
  • Fangs like a monster
  • Snake legs or Snake hair, Snake skirt, Devouring Snakes
  • Medusa is sometimes flanked by lions as seen on temple freeze, which could relate her to the mother godess, potnia theron. There are gorgon images in potnia theron symbolism as seen in above plate.

Either depicted as a monster above doorways or in temple art, earth mother godess that devours all.  I suspect this is a metaphor for time itself devouring creation. It later transformed into the Siren symbolism and mother godess fertoilty moon and night symbolism. Kali is all devouring time.

Mycenean Sphinxes

Mycenaen Rosette – Rodakas



The rosette (rodakas in Greek) a motif that was widespread throughout Mesopotamia, Egypt and other ancient civilizations appears as well in many ancient Greek-Mycenaean jewels, among its other decorative uses in architecture and pottery (circa 1500 BC).

Mycenaean rosettes come usually in 6 or 8 or 12 leaves. They were made of gold and were used to decorate cloths for both men and women, sewn directly on them. They were also used in belts or as repeated motifs in necklaces, and as single decorations in earrings and rings.


I believe that the mycenean and minoan rosette is another shape for the sun.

We see this also in mediaval churches in form of the rose window.

Statue of Meryetamun, daughter of Ramses II, c. 1250 BC, located in the Cairo Museum.



J.-C. Poursat, Catalogue des Ivoires Myceniens du Musee National d’Athenes; Les Ivoires Myceniens, Athens, 1997.…/author/poursat-jean-claude/

One picture: Heraldically opposed sfinxes, Ivory relief. From the “House of Sfinxes”, Mycenae. Ascribed to c. 1300-1200 BC. Illus. 162, Higgins, Minoan and Mycenaean Art. Pl. 97, Taylour, The Mycenaeans.

Astronomical myth/god parallels between India, Sumeria, Greece and the Bible.

Krishna and his brother Balarama fighting Aristasura.

This post started of researching the parallels between Krishna stories and Hercules labours. The origins in my opinion, lay in astronomy. To the end of this post a story starts to emerge if all things and history is taken into consideration, that might rewrite current known history.

Hercules and Iolaus figthing the Hydra. (not the sickle and the club)

We know Hercules is orion, who is is helper, its Boötes

Quote Wikipedia: The name Boötes was first used by Homer in his Odyssey as a celestial reference point for navigation, described as “late-setting” or “slow to set”, translated as the “Plowman”

Quote Wikipedia:  Balarama, is also known as Baladeva, Balabhadra, Haladhara and Halayudha. The first two epithets refer to his strength, the last two associate him with Hala (Langala, “plough”) from his strong associations with farming and farmers, as the deity who used farm equipment as weapons when needed.

I hereby  Identify and link Krishna and BalaRama to Orion and Bootes, the gemini half brothers, like hercules + iolaus, hercules + Apollo and Cain + Abel.

We can see there are Parallels between India and Greece stories under disguise of different names.  Others have identified Shiva nataraja allready with Orion. 



The question that arises is was it just astronomy that was told or was there also a ‘real story’ of history behind these myths.

Krishna fighting Sesha is hercules fighting the Hydra.

The story of Enkidu and Gilgamesh slaying the bull of heaven is similar to Krishna and Balarama slaying the buffalo demon Aristasura.

It is also related to the Mithras myth of the bullslaying, which is astronomical in nature as well as this great book explains highlighting the meaning of the bull slaying statue and identifying scorpio, hydra, canis minor and the bull Taurus, the sun through the year.

The “twin brothers” is a reference to Gemini. (Note the red and blue colour, as explained in my article The universal religion.

Hercules and Apollo

A great article is also here on Gemini.

Krishna and Balarama

Cain and Abel

This story also relates to  Cain (Orion)  and Abel  (Bootes) story.

I noticed that Bootes was agricultural and orion with his cow and aries nearby husbandry (PASTORalism).

If the skies turn, bootes comes first and then gets “killed” by Orion. One brother that has animals (cain) kills the one who offers fallen crops (abel).

English: Cain and Abel, ivory panel from the cathedral of Salerno, ca. 1084.
Français : Caïn et Abel, panneau en ivoire provenant de la cathédrale de Salerne, v. 1084.
Dimensions H. 10.9 cm (4 ¼ in.), W. 22.1 cm (8 ½ in.)
Department of Decorative Arts, Richelieu, first floor, room 2, case 13
Accession number OA 4052 Info non-talk.svg
Credit line Charvet, then Castellani Collection; purchase, 1898
Source/Photographer Jastrow (2005)

Of very specific noteworthy mention here in above picture of that ivory tablet, showing the cain and abel scene, is the inclusion of that PILLAR. That is a direct reference to the sky (pillar of heaven) and thus to constellations again. The pillar of heaven is a synonym for the skies, like we see in Mycenae and the Asherah pillar great godess cult.

Now lets move on to interpret the Cain and Able story.

  • Cain the farmer, is Bootes
  • Abel, the Pastoralist,or shepherd, is orion

The stars/skies rotate. Constellations rise in the east and set in the west.

First Abel (Orion) sacrifices his best ram. That is Aries. Aries is the first constellation to go down the horizon. After that it is Orions turn to fall below the horizon.  Bootes rises after Orion and effectively “kills” Orion from the skies .

We can conclude like the romans woshipped Hercules, Hercules, the TRUE SHEPHARD OF ANU, is also the PASTORalist, the good shepherd (and thus by default the later Jezus)

Quote wikipedia: It was Cain, the agricultarilist, who Cain continued his wickedness in Nod: resorting to violence and robbery; establishing weights and measures; transforming human culture from innocence into craftiness and deceit; establishing property lines (which we see today); and building a fortified city. Nod is said to be outside of the presence or face of God. Origen defined Nod as the land of trembling (volcanic) and wrote that it symbolized the condition of all who forsake God.[8]

Nod was EAST of the garden of Eden. This is of suspected importance later.

The synonyms of the shepherd are clearly there. Both the first and new testament are astronomical stories. Although Orion as the shepherd (and not as hunter, we have to dig deeper in time into astronomy)

 Quote: Babylonians knew Orion as MUL.SIPA.ZI.AN.NA or The Heavenly  Shepherd (The True Shepherd of Anu) in the Late Bronze Age and associated the constellation with Anu, the god of the heavenly realms. Egyptians associated it with Osiris, the god of death, afterlife and rebirth.


Strengthening the Hercules/Orion connection.

Hercules/ Orionwas the spring constellation, resurection at easter, sounds familiar? When the land became green, the green man as seen in northern cyltures, hence its green colour, or the cerne giant, all worship of the orion constellation in other forms, with his big phallus, symbolizing fertility of the land and the male symbol. (arche


Hercules/Orion the cerne giant. It was found there was a lions skin as well during archeological excavations. The Hercules connection is strengthened by the 1996 discovery of the cloak, as Hercules was often depicted with a cloak made from the Nemean Lion‘s skin.[53]


Noteworthy is Adams third son, Set.

In Egyptian mythology, Set is portrayed as the usurper who killed and mutilated his own brother Osiris. Osiris’ wife Isis reassembled (remembered) Osiris’ corpse and resurrected him long enough to conceive his son and heir Horus.

Again, a battle of 2 brothers.  Even though it can be related to the stars, like many other similar myths, where did the original story come from that was the basis of naming the constellations as such?

Hence we can confidently say that that Orion was Able in the old testament and the true shepherd Jezus in the new testament (together with the 3 kings stars of Orion and Sirius for the star of Bethlehem), and the basis of the churchs pontifs regalia, together with the Mitre (fish hat) for the age of PISCES. (tThat came after the ram and after the bull taurus) Hence Jezus’ particular “fish”symbolism and Oannes / Johannes the fisher of men.

There is a lot of hidden symbolism if you can read it / knows it relates to astronomy.

It is important to see that there is no difference between Hercules, Abel, Osiris or even Shiva in all these seperate “religions” but they are ALL linked by astronomy and different names/stories telling the same rotation of the skies.

The tree in the garden of eden relates to the skies and world tree of pillar of heaven (Mycenae) and the snake in the tree is the constellation is hydra. However that is to much to explain here as that is the tree of life symbolism. I have covered that elsewhere.

Indra vs Vritra and the Ashvini twins

We see later “gods” wrestle the serpent as seen in my article the universal religion.

Shiva, also “wears the serpent”

(one example: Indra and Vritra, using Dadichis bones to slay Vritra. he made a Vayra or lightning bolt weapon of of the bones.. This is not taken literally, he used a constellations “bones” I suspect sagitaurus (half horse, horse headed), to kill the later hydra..

Indras battles are astronomical in nature like Hercules labours. Another example is the battle of Indra with the ashwini twins, another reference to Gemini..

We see now that multiple Indian “main” books, the RIGVEDA (Indra) and the MAHABRATTA (Krishna) all are astronomical in nature and that these stories are identical to Greek mythology stories, just different names where used but the underlying rotation of the skies and the relation to constellations is clearly present.

The castor-pollux Gemini relation is shown here:

Quote wikipedia: The Ashvins are derived from the Proto-Indo-European horse twins.[1][2][3] Their cognates in other Indo-European mythologies include the Baltic Ašvieniai, the Greek Castor and Polydeuces, the Roman Castor and Pollux, the English Hengist and Horsa, and the Welsh Bran and Manawydan.[1]


Ashwashira – The One With The Horse’s Head

Dadhichi is said to have been a master of a Vedic art known as Brahmavidya (Madhu Vidya) that would enable one to attain immortality.[3] Indra, the King of the Devas, felt his position was insecure with such power in the hands of a mortal man, especially one with as much power as Dadhichi possessed by virtue of being a rishi. Indra was also against the Ashwini twins (Gods of Medicines) learning Brahmavidya and swore that he would behead the one who taught them the art.[6]

However the Ashwini twins wished to learn this art and devised a plan to protect Dadhichi from Indra‘s power. They learned the art from Dadhichi after cutting off his head, preserving it and replacing it with one from a horse. Indra, blinded by his wrath, beheaded the horse-headed sage and left.

The Ashwini twins then put Dadhichi head back’s and revived him with the Madhuvidya that he had taught them. This was how the sage came to be called Ashvashira – The One with the Horse’s head.[6]

The sage of medicines is the later Aesculapius or the constellation Ophiucius.. This requires further research.


Shiva and Durga

Lets go back to India and see if we see any further parallels. We have identified the main god as Hercules/Orion. (with the bull Taurus)

Adam (Orion) and Eve (Virgo) being the prototypes noted in the bible. We also see a male female link in India, namely Shiva and Durga.

If we establish Shiva is also Orion, linked to Taurus, then we have to find Durga in the skies.

Lets look at the below. The first image finds her. It is VIRGO.

Durga is often seen with a tiger,  also with a lion, she is the prototype of Isis, Brittania, Helvetica and many others. Notice the exact same symbolism?

Why, because she is the constellation of VIRGO, her lion is LEO. Related to the Sea with her trident (like poseidon in above pictures) as the bottom half of the skies was a sea and the top a sky.)

The cross on the shield (and of the catholic church), in the flag of Switzerland and the union jack is a direct reference to the zodiacal cross (or symbolic tree of life) as explained in my article the universal religion.

The lady to Virgo. The lion to Leo, the Cup to Crater and the lion to Leo.

It is worth mentioning that the sun was female in ancient days and the moon male, the god sin.  Or what we see here is a combination of opposites, I am not sure of that but this article explains it.

Back to Krishna

In terms of the indian stories, a  story emerges in the stars of a dark brother (krishna blue is also dark)  and a light brother, that needs further investigation and is omitted/excluded from Greek mythology.

Balarama, the white one was a brother from another mother, but a brother none the less.

Quote wikipedia: Balarama’s legend appears in many Parva (books) of the Mahabharata. The Book Three (Vana Parva) states Krishna and him to be brothers born to separate mothers, but one father. Book One (Adi Parva) states the circumstances that lead to light skinned Balarama, and dark skinned Krishna. Book Thirteen (Anushasana Parva) presents the mythology of Sesha’s incarnation into Balarama, as Vishnu incarnated as Krishna, likely reflecting the basis why most of ancient and early medieval artworks of Balarama show a snake hood on top of his head.

Why are Indian and Greek and Sumerian myths based on similar astronomy and altered accordingly slightly but still identifiable as the same. Its the tale of the two brothers the farmer and the animal keeper and the offering to god, where abel (Hercules or the true shephard) was “slain” as the farmer by his brother Bootes (Cain)  because the offering to god was seen as  “better”.

The above image is slightly confusing as in 1 image it incorporates both of orions symbolism, the bow and the club. Now who is who exactly?

As you see in the gemini image colour, Bootes, the farmers, (balarama) colour  red, (the white farming race) or Cain that went east of eden (europe) and build fortified cities (myceanan pre greece), so red was directly linked to the white race in a way. Blue, the dark race. The cow herders and shepherds are possibly the Indian civilization, the more peaceful race. (never waged wars)

Apollo, was blue and with an instrument(harp), just like Krishna and Shiva had an instrument.(Peace)


Rama and Lakshmana

Note the skin colour difference again, as pointed out earlier between the “brothers” Is this all the same story with different names?


Was there a brother war? Yes there was..

I suspect a racial war in the past where the white race split from the darker race, even though they where “brothers” The white race moves east (to greece/europe) but had the same origins/roots possibly near India.

Is that why Adolf Hitler choose a red flag for his Nazi empire and was he searching so much in that land.

Adam, also means red in Hebrew. Hebrew אדם (‘adam) meaning “to be red“, referring to the ruddy colour of human skin. It would indeed make sense from an occult perspective but thats for another time to dicuss.

The colours symbolism is more explained in the universal religion post of which this post is an adendum.

Why is there a “dark brother and a light brother” legend not found / mentioned or omitted in Sumerian and Greek mythology. Vague remnants are there in the stars (Gemini) and the bootes/orion story.

However it is sort of mentioned in the sons of Noah which is based on the indian story of Manu.  There where 3 sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth . The arabic race/shemites, the white race and the black race. I need to check further references to the Manu story.

What is also of considerable interest is the duality between hercules and his club and apollo with his musical instrument, a war vs peace scenario, that is also seen in the US eagles talons, and later depictions of brittania, wheat and spear/trident. So the godess Durga, is also the main godess of Brittain, Brittania. The Danu(va) race.

The indians are a peacefull, mostly vegetarian race that have been invaded but never fought wars themselves. It is also interesting to look into that specific dualism.

Is this a remniscent of the faith of the world that alternates between period of war vs periods of world peace, like it becomes summer and winter, the Yuga cycles?

Are these stories showing a split/war in ancient times, between Pastoralist and Agriculturalist? Meat eaters vs non meat eaters? White race vs Black race?

It points into that direction. The agriculturalist cain was expelled from the garden of eden, but perhaps this story was misconstrued and it was actually good to eat no meat as killing is not good. Perhaps this history was rewritten by the victors, the PASTORalists… descendants of Cain, who build fortified cities in the mediteranean, listed land ownership and did all that Cain did..

Abel, might actually the Indian race. The agricultural non meat eaters.

If we look at the Egyptian Pharos tools, he is carrying both the shepherds crook (pastoralist) and the flail (agriculturalist)

Later minoan civilization and the mycenae Civilizations where showed a BULL cult, related to Taurus,  indicating mainly Pastoralist.


The father of Pandu and Dhritarashtra is also the father of Vidura, namely, Veda Vyasa – Krishna Dvaipayana.

Veda Vyasa is the title and the name is Krishna Dvaipaayana just as in Dr  X (name) Dr is the title and X is the name. He was named Krishna because he was born black, and since he was born in an island (WHAT ISLAND??), he was  named Dvaipaayana.

All the three  (Dhritarashtra, Pandu and Vidura) were the illegitimate sons of Veda Vyasa.

  • Dhritarashtra was conceived by Ambika
  • Pandu was conceived by her younger sister Ambalika.  (umbilical cord??)
  • Vidura who  grew up to be a replica of Dharma (righteousness) as predicted by Veda Vyasa

Both Ambikaa and Ambaalikaa are daughters of Kaashya, the king of Kaashi (Varanasi or Benares).
Dhritarashtra  (DARK RACE / HAM) – was born blind because Ambika, having been frightened of Veda Vyasa’s appearance,  shut her eyes completely during copulation with Veda Vyasa. So Veda Vyasa had to repeat the performance with Ambalika. Everything went well here, but, again on seeing the fearsome appearance of Vyasa.

Ambaalikaa (WHITE RACE / JAPETH) – turned pale during the niyoga act . So the conceived child was born pale and he was named Pandu.

Indian albino. Perhaps the ‘deformity’ that was spoken of and the progenitors of the white race. Facial features like nose, eyes, facial hair, between Indians and europeans are similar minus haircolour blond and red.  I propose that an Indian mutation is described in the mahabaratta and could possibly be origin of the white race. 

Now the person behind all these arrangements was none other than Satyavati (royal mother, mother of the deceased Vichitraveerya and mother-in-law of Ambika and Ambalika) whose first son was Veda Vyasa who too was illegitimate. Now Satyavati had summoned Veda Vyasa to impregnate the issueless  two widowed queens (of Vichitraveerya) Ambika and Ambalika in order to obtain a legal heir to the Hastinapura throne. Since the previous two processes did not produce the desired result, that is one normal healthy heir to the throne, Veda Vyasa was summoned for the third time by Satyavati.

Vidura (Shemetic race / SHEM) – Ambika agreed to go through the ordeal again. But, at the last moment, she could not muster sufficient courage to face Veda Vyasa. So, she sent her maidservant in her place (similar to abraham and Hagar). The maid had intercourse with Veda Vyasa in full attention and with full devotion. The result was the birth of a normal child  with no disability (white colour or blindness). That child was named Vidura. (Indicating this was also a dark child)

Now both Dhritarashtra and Vidura did not qualify for the throne of Hastinapura because the former suffered from the physical disability of blindness, and the latter, being the son of a maidservant.

*Note: Could this indicate the 3 sons of Noah, noahs sons, a dark race (Ham), a white race (Japed) and the Shemites (The chosen ones / Dharma) It also faintly reminds of the story of Abraham who also has intercourse with a maid servant Hagar (ishmael)


Was the ancient great war as listed in the Mahabaratta a war between the pastoralist and agriculturalist, the war between the two “brothers”? (


The Pandeva

Descendant from Pandu, meaning Whitish/pale.  (The younger line of King Kuru)

The Kaureva

Descendants from Dhritarashtra  (elder line of King Kuru) Pandu was a half brother.

Eventually the Kauravas loose the war and only 1 son, Yuyutsu stays alive as he fought on the side of the Pandavas:

During Kurukshetra War:  Before the onset of the battle of Kurukshetra War between Kauravas and Pandavas, Yuyutsu shifts from Kauravas to the Pandava camp. Yuyutsu fought the battle on the side of the Pandavas. He was one among the 11 Maharathis (capable of fighting 720,000 warriors simultaneously) among the Kauravas. Yuyutsu was one among the eleven warriors to have survived the war.[7]

After the war: When the Pandavas decided to retire from the world at the start of the Kali Yuga (THIS INDICATES BEFORE CAME THE BRONZE AGE!!) and departure of Krishna

This indicates that India was rules by the last remaining Kaurava while the Pandevas moves to Sumer and Europe.

This also aligns with was was said about Cain, he moved to the trembling lands and build fortification cities in the mediteranean (mycenae citadels) As per timeframe, PRE Kali Yuga,  which is iron age, this would place these events in the BRONZE AGE, exactly the time of the Mycenae Mediterranean Pelasgian civilization..


Two brothers fighting……

Both show descent from Kuru yet they fought together. (Different lines indicating different mothers, which could make a black and white race)

Did the pastoralist , Cains descendants, move east to the land of Nod, that trembled (Volcanic greece)

Was there a split between the white race and the dark Indian race at that time after the Mahabaratta war.

Did the Pandevas move east and started the greek and western civilizations?



Due to disability (blindness) of the other brother and child of maid servant) and the basis of the biblical Cain and Able story, that was specifically captured in astronomy (gemini) and in the blue and red occult symbolism in the later western world and also this would make sense why Hitler had such an interest in India.

All of Kaureva where killed, except 1 child of the slain brother , Yuyutsu, it seems the pandevas became king , heir to the throne of Hastinapura

Yudhishthira (Pandeva) gave the charge of supervising the kingdom to Yuyutsu (the last remaining Kaureva descend) 

Parikshit was made the king[8][9] (Pandeva descend)

The stories of the Ramayana and Mabharata, are also displayed in the wayang art are at the core of Hinduism, the oldest and most important books. Could these books be hidden in the stars in the form of western constellations and point to a common story?

We could speculate, that all this information combined, would elude to an extremely interesting VEDIC ORIGINS of  the Caucasian race as a half brother of the kingdom of Kuru and basis of the Cain and Abel (and third child Seth) story . Abel left no heirs (or did he) and Cain’s heirs, according to tradition, were destroyed by the Great Flood. (The volcanic etna explosion?)

In any case, The story that is depicted in the stars of the two brothers if you combine the constellations. That the Cain and Abel story is a form of the story of the Mahabaratta war.

It seems the naming of the constellations was initially to tell the story of the two brothers and the war at that time and the red and blue colour to elude to a dark race and a white version of race with the same dark father, giving information that the white race might have migrated from India to the Mediterranean, where they consequently build the bronze age fortresses and gave rise to the Greek civilization as the Pelasgians.The time period, before the Kali Yuga (iron age) fits in perfectly and would explain the rise of the European civilization.


*update 1 June 2018

A study on mice migration (linked to agriculture) shows exactly what I tried to argue here above.

The highest concentrations are in the northern India area where the mahabaratta royalty lived and Greece.

Mice Migration and Human Migration: Two Linked Journeys







The volcanic connection

This blog post captures my own research into why they build pyramids worldwide and how these structures / temples are related to each other. I tried to understand why a whole world started building similar structures, ignoring the obvious answer of “its the easiest way to build a tall building” and “these cultures are not related”.

I started looking for a possible deeper meaning behind this worldwide pyramid phenomena.

It started to make sense after a first clue, pyra-mid, which translates as fire in the middle. Ben ben was symbolic for “primeval mound”

The word PYRAMID according to Stephen Mehler:

“The word pyramid is derived from the Greek words PYRAMIS and PYRAMIDOS. The meaning of the word Pryamis is obscure and may relate to the shape of a pyramid. The word Pyramidos has been translated as “Fire In The Middle”. In alignment with the indigenous tradition, we use the interpretation “House of Nature, House of Energy” for Per-Neter.”

It is rather interesting that the Egyptian word for pyramid was MR, or MER, awefully close to the Hindu MERU and suMER. SU meaning “good” in sanskrit and MR being the primordial mountain.

Then I went to browser for certain pyramids and temples in the world. We know the ancients revered the primordial mountain as per Egyptian religion. The “mountain” re-occurs in many religions worldwide.


Quote: “It was given different names in different cultures. The Egyptians knew it as the Primordial Mound, the Israelites as Sinai and Zion, and the Greeks as Olympus and Parnassus. Further afield, the Indians called the divine peak Meru or Sumeru, the Chinese Kun-lun, Sung-shan, or Bu-zhou, the Icelanders Himinbjörg, the Aztec Colhuacan, and the Choctaw Nunne Chaha.” Source


Besides the Meru domes of Indian temples, we even see this mountain shape in Sardinian wells if seen from the air, a  “mountain” with a (pole)star on top. (the star constellations and planets are “the gods” on top of the mountain)

*Note the flattened trapezium shaped pyramid shape and on top a “pole star”.

Santa Cristina stepwell Sardinia, seen from the air.

The “not perfect pyramid” shape like the largest Egyptian pyramid. Could it actually be a depiction of a volcano? Hepahaistus and Ptah where derived from each other and both related to volcanoes.

Many Asian temples are in a moat, like an island. For example Angkor Wat with a mountain like building as temple. The Vimana of Hindu temples representing mount Meru. The primordial mountain/island.

There is one very important link researchers and academics worldwide might have missed, which is, the possible relation of ancient sites to the volcano. In many places like Cholula it is very obvious but perhaps overlooked.

“The pyramid (and later temple mounts) could be culturally linked to the volcano worldwide.” – Stijn van den Hoven


Cono de Arita is a volcanic cone that rises unexpectedly in the middle of the salt pan, near the border of Salar de Arizaro, in Argentina

So can we prove pyramids (or temples) are related to volcanoes?

Not only is the pyramid a representation of that primordial mount that rises from the sea, water and fire combined, it is also directly related to some of the world largest pyra-mids, so obvious in plane sight as a background to the building but not explicitly mentioned as related to it, as far as I know by anyone. Not in relation to this subject in Meso America and also not in a global relation in different countries worldwide like Bali that it was the volcano that caused the temple or pyramid to be build.

Some pyramids and temples are directly positioned on or near such volcanoes making it a small copy of the large mountain behind it as seen in Mexico AND Bali, an ocean apart, with no cultural links whatsoever according to conventional academic research.

Was it mere coincidence they both framed the volcano? I suspect not.


The Aztecs gave the name Miccaotli Street of the Dead or Calzada de los Muertos in Spanish) to the broad, street-like series of connected plazas in Teotihuacan.

The main buildings are connected by a 130-foot- (40-metre-) wide road, the Street of the Dead (“Calle de los Muertos”), that stretches 1.5 miles (2.4 km); oriented slightly east of true north.

It points directly at the nearby sacred peak of Cerro Gordo, not any mountain, again a volcano..

The Street of the Dead was once erroneously thought to have been lined with tombs, but the low buildings that flank it probably were palace residences.

I do not think the pyramids are the pyramids of the sun and moon. I think they represents the two large volcano’s south-west of Mexico city and that the reason is that the street of the death connects to 1 pyramid is exactly that. Because the volcanoes caused massive death to a pre-civilization.

I noticed that the old Toltec city of Tula was on the other side of Mexico city much closer to the volcano’s and that the newer cities are deliberately further on the other side.

Could Teotihuacan and Cholula be cities that came from Tula
that was abandoned and destroyed by volcanic erruptions?

Is that the true meaning of the pyramid shape? Is that the reason why they mimicked the two mountains as pyramids in Theotihuacan and linked the street of the death directly to 1 pyramid.




Let’s carry on to the largest pyramid in Mexico, where the catholic church build a church on top. Check what is behind it..épetl

  • Mid-to late first century CE: A violent VEI-6 eruption may have caused the large migrations that settled Teotihuacan, according to DNA analysis of teeth and bones.


pyramidPerhaps this picture shows it better.. That’s right, a massive volcano.



The great pyramid of Cholula, with as backdrop the volcano it replicates.

The great pyramid of Cholula, Mexico

Chalcatzingo another old Olmec site has also view of Popocatépetl

Looking north northwest, The view from a mountain above Chalcatzingo (seen far below). To the right looms Cerro Delgado.

Popocatépetl can be seen in the far distance to the north

Image result for Chalcatzingo

Legend of Popocatépetl and Iztaccíhuatl

Quote Wikipedia:

“In aztec mythology, Iztaccíhuatl was a princess who fell in love with one of her father’s warriors, Popocatépetl. The emperor sent Popocatépetl to war in Oaxaca, promising him Iztaccíhuatl as his wife when he returned (which Iztaccíhuatl’s father presumed he would not). Iztaccíhuatl was falsely told that Popocatépetl had died in battle, and believing the news, she died of grief. When Popocatépetl returned to find his love dead, he took her body to a spot outside Tenochtitlan and kneeled by her grave. The gods covered them with snow and changed them into mountains. Iztaccíhuatl’s mountain is called “White Woman” (from Nahuatl iztāc “white” and cihuātl “woman”) because it resembles a woman lying on her back, and is often covered with snow — the peak is sometimes nicknamed La Mujer Dormida, “The Sleeping Woman”. Popocatépetl became an active volcano, raining fire on Earth in blind rage at the loss of his beloved.”

Quote Wikipedia

Mount Tlaloc

Tlaloc vessel
There is a sanctuary found atop Mount Tlaloc, dedicated to the god, Tlaloc; it is thought that the location of this sanctuary in relation to other temples surrounding it may have been a way for the Aztecs to mark the time of year and keep track of important ceremonial dates.[26] Research has shown that different orientations linked to Mount Tlaloc revealed a grouping of dates at the end of April and beginning of May associated with certain astronomical and meteorological events. Arcaheological, ethnohistoric, and ethnographic data indicate that these phenomena coincide with the sowing of maize in dry lands associated with agricultural sites.[27] The precinct on the summit of the mountain contains 5 stones which are thought to represent Tlaloc and his four Tlaloque, who are responsible for providing rain for the land. It also features a structure that housed a statue of Tlaloc in addition to idols of many different religious regions, such as the other sacred mountains. [4]

Geographical setting
Mount Tlaloc is the highest peak of the part of the Sierra Nevada called Sierra del Rio Frio that separates the valleys of Mexico and Puebla. It rises over two diffierent ecological zones: alpine meadows and subalpine forests. The rainy season starts in May and lasts until October. The highest annual temperature occurs in April, the onset of the rainy season, and the lowest in December–January. Some 500 years ago weather conditions were slightly more severe, but the best time to climb the mountain was practically the same as today: October through December, and February until the beginning of May. The date of the feast of Huey Tozotli celebrated atop Mount Tlaloc coincided with a period of the highest annual temperature, shortly before dangerous thunderstorms might block access to the summit.[28]

Archaeological evidence
The first detailed account of Mount Tlaloc by Jim Rickards in 1929 was followed by visits or descriptions by other scholars. In 1953 Wicke and Horcasitas carried out preliminary archaeological investigations at the site; their conclusions were repeated by Parsons in 1971. Archaeo-astronomical research began in 1984, some of which remains unpublished. In 1989 excavation was undertaken at the site by Solis and Townsend.[29] The current damage that is present at the top of Mount Tlaloc is thought to be likely of human destruction, rather than natural forces. There also appears to have been a construction of a modern shrine that was built in the 1970s, which suggests that there was a recent/present attempt to conduct rituals on the mountain top

El Volcan

Another weird find is this. A man made mini volcano. Named “el Volcan”

Quote: “In the 1960s, archaeologists had noted the volcano-like mound and identified it as artificial, but  Benfer and his team decided to investigate further.”


Also the site of Izapa is aligned to a volcano as shown in this article by John Major Jenkins yet he didn’t pay much attention to that detail not realising a lot of old world sites are.

Quote: ” The site is oriented some 21 degrees east of true north, which is the sight line to the peak of Tacana Volcano.”


The reason for Balis’ temples on the slope of volcanoes or Cholula in front of volcano pre-dates Hinduism and relates to the core of the pyramid culture.

Lempuyang Temple, Bali

Mother Temple gate in Besakih is on the slopes of volcano Mount Agung .

Here the gate of Pura lempuyang temple in Bali. Again a volcano is framed perfectly in its view, identical to the Cholula Pyramid in Meso America. Mount Agung or Gunung Agung is a volcano in Bali, Indonesia, south-east of Mt Batur volcano, also in Bali. Gunung Agung strato volcano is the highest point on Bali. 

View of Angung volcano Last eruption: 21 November 2017
Elevation: 3,031 m
Prominence: 3,031 m
Translation: Paramount, The Great Mountain
The most important temple on Bali, Pura Besakih, is located high on the slopes of Gunung Agung volcano.


It is no secret Egypt God Ptah was an earlier form of Hephaestus or Vulcan, again the volcano link is obvious.

If this is established we then can ask ourselves why we can see similar cultural links between temples, pyramids since these cultures are not related according to academic scholars and “just the easiest way to build a tall structure” The answer to why pyramids where build, besides, tombs for Pharaohs was never given, nor was any Pharaoh ever found in “their tomb”.

A symbolic memorial tomb however, as message to the future might explain the effort made if millions died in a catastrophic volcanic event in the past.

Besides having shown  in my Makara paper  clear cultural links across the pacific,  here again a interesting similarity appears, both religious constructions, a temple in Bali and a pyramid in Mexico, is clearly linked to the Volcano.. Is this another “coincidence” or does a picture start to appear.

I propose the vulture and the snake on the Tutankhamen death mask are the constellations Vega (Vulture Cadens) and Draco successive pole star constellations. Relations to Vega that even in modern times are related in our times in the US eagle, which I show in my other article on the bird man cult.

Questions arrise. Why was the worldwide bird cult so important?

Why was Vega a vulture, a bird of death and the ‘Pharaohs chicken’? Why we see a global “mount cult”.

I suspect a global volcanic cataclysm occurred in mans history that later gave rise to pyramid monuments worldwide and perhaps the memorial on Easter island as closed to an Atlantic mother continent perhaps, although that is mere speculation. Perhaps future excavations reveal more as there is a lot of soil deposited on the statues and the island as a whole.

Scientist have proven increased volcanic activity occurred due to less pressure on the mantle from melting ice in the last ice age. This would have triggered volcanic eruptions and tsunamis worldwide destroying civilizations and causing world death. A vulture would be the right image for Vega and basis for the bird and pyramid cult worldwide.

The bird on the mountain(Vega, vulture Cadens) and killing people on Mayan Pyramids might be what Mayan priest symbolically re-enacted dressed in bird costumes doing sacrifices. It might be why the priestess of Mu Egypt wore feathers from vultures. Mu the motherland.

Atlantis was the homeland of the Egyptians. My thesis is pyramids are volcano representations and a symbolic remnant of a destroyed motherland as memorial to their ancestors. Since in Egyptian pyramid is Mr, there is the Sudanese Meroe culture(meru), SU Meru means good meru. There is even a volcano named sumeru on Java. The Nile, Nila for bleu in sanskrit, the lotus flower, the cobra I suspect Egypt was a vedic colony. The oldest worship is Agni or fire altars, which would pretty much fit in with a volcano.

There is a book written on sundaland which might be a possible location of the motherland.

Atlantis was ‘beyond the pillars of hercules’ . What if this was not a physical location but a reference to a time. The only pillars of hercules in the sky is Ophiuchius, which gave rise to many storm deities after that including Viracocha. I even suspect the Samson story links to this. (pulling down the temple) specifically note the harp in the picture. That is Vega/Lyra I think.

Samson pulling down the temple.


What if the global pyramid cultures only started after leaving the (Asian vedic) motherland as remnant of the volcanic deluge and dispersed in direction of Ireland, Europe, Greece, Egypt, Peru and India and seeded the globe hence the similarities in culture and the globally seen staff deity for Ophiuchius, Orions (Hercules) exact 180 degree counterpart in the sky. Above him sits the ‘real’ Hercules again but Hercules occurs in multiple places in the zodiac, for example also one of the twins gemini.

Ophiuchius, in my opinion the storm God in any culture as staff or storm deity. See my article the universal religion.


Vega (in Lyra), the vulture (or harp) and Aquila the eagle are basis for the US eagle and the double headed eagle of freemason and Garuda, as described in my birdman article that links also to Easter island. To me a picture starts to form. Many names in tiuhanaco have sanskrit links. Kala (time) and Vira (man) cocha (mixed ancestry) are some of them. It would explain the similar reed boats found in Egypt, Indus Valley and lake titicaca Peru.

The arrow sagitta, near Vega, killed the cyclops or cyclopeans in Greek myth. The ‘Single eyes’ . Writer Richard Cassaro thought the cyclops where the bindi wearers.  This could then well be another reference to the Vedic Asian homeland destruction of the megalithic pre civilization.

There are stories how a single arrow with fire at its end(comet?) destroyed the 3 cities.  Perhaps a comet impact triggered the volcanos.


Quote: “The Danavas including Maya was present at the time Tripura was fuming!
The torment caused by Tripura was unbearable that  the Devas asked Shiva to kill him.
He did so by using a single arrow.
The killing of Tripura by Shiva was described as Tripura samhara.
The exact process of killing is described in the Sangam Tamil text called Paripadal
which is an exact description of the destruction caused by a Volcano.

Features of a Volcano

Paripadal – 5 says

“naaga naaNaa malai villaaka
moovagai, aareyil Orazal ambin muLiya”
(நாக நாணா மலை வில்லாக
மூவகை ஆரெயில் ஓரழல் அம்பின் முளிய)

Naaga – snake
naaNaa – as the string (of the bow)
malai – mountain
villaaka – as the bow
moovakai – 3 types
aareyil – walls (fortresses)
Orazal – a single streak of fire
ambin muLiya – at the end of an arrow – killed

That is,
Shiva killed Tripura with the mountain as the arrow and the snakes (mantle / magma) as the string, he blew the 3 fortresses of iron, silver and gold (molten material) by shooting a single arrow which has fire at its end.
The snakes – as we told before – personify the magma trying to come out.

This describes the sudden and powerful eruption of fire and mantle from inside the mountain (volcano) which resulted in the complete collapse of the volcano.”

Easter Island

It also might be represented by the statues on Easter Island, deliberately placed on a volcanic island to symbolize the destruction of mankind as a warning to the future, intended to be buried by the volcanic ash as a massive memorial and message to future mankind. Massive amounts of soil are covering the huge statues.

Researchers have found charcoal in the peat suggesting the islands vegetation was burned by its residents, I suspect the volcanoes actually did this (and buried the statues) and the statues where intentionally placed on a volcanic island in the pacific as a memorial to a deluge volcanic destruction. Further dating when the statues where placed and by whom and why there are megalithic walls similar to those in south America needs to be done by archaeologist. If we know the statues are so large, how deep does that wall go?

How deep does that wall go since the moais are so large?

This would be the first place I would excavate. Thor Heyerdale also found more walls on Easter Island.

And if statues are covered so deep under sand/ ash what more lies hidden on this island and where these statues intentionally so large to be able to withstand numerous eruptions before fully covered as a message to future mankind? Why did they not dig at the wall to see how deep it goes since only a head of a Moai sticks out there as well?

How long does it take to cover these statues so deep in soil. How many eruptions of the 3 nearby volcanoes or tsunamis? This should be easily answered if we see in which direction the statues have fallen, if it was eruptions or tsunami’s. In any case, The depth of the soil is huge, so what else is hidden on Easter Island..

Monuments rather than tombs or symbolic tombs warning future mankind of the worldwide catastrophe that killed so many. Hence perhaps Pyramids where never tombs yet symbolic tombs and a pending warning to mankind and Easter Island was also such a memorial to testify to such a deluge.

This is is my opinion the true reason why pyramids where build worldwide. Combined with later astronomy to mark a time in man’s history many thousands of years ago.

Obsidian, cinnabar are all related to volcanoes as their pyramids and early gods where.

What if the pyramid was a memorial, a symbolic Tomb of millions, due to worldwide volcanic eruptions, tsunamis and a total blackout of the skies combined with a scorching hole in the ozone layer in a downwards spiral effect. Is this why there are no mummies ever found in old pyramids as they where merely a symbolic “tomb” or memorial in the beginning.

Further more astronomy was practised, the priest dressed in bird feathers on top of pyramids sacrificing people could be an enactment of either their sky god bird / vulture / eagle Vega, killing people. Together with the volcano symbolism or being an re-enactment of their maize god constellation being “sacrificed” on top of the mountain. There is no difference to the Olympian gods on the mountain.

An interesting fact is that the mountain where Noahs’ arks landed, mount Ararat is also a twin peak strato volcano. The story of Noah was plagiarized by the church from older Sumerian and Indian accounts. (flood of Gilgamesh, flood of Manu,Utnapishtim etc

However it does shows a link between a volcano and a flood story. Again two volcanic mountains that look like natural pyramids.

Mount Ararat and the Araratian plain, seen early morning from near the city of Artashat in Armenia. On the center left can be seen the historic Khor Virap monastery.

The link of pyramids to the volcanoes as memorials to volcanic eruptions that created a deluge has, as far as I know never been published in this context and deserves further research.

A recent article on national geographic did point out also that pyramids could have been modelled to volcanos.

In general, Sheets said, volcanism was an integral part of ancient Maya life. Some of the temples in the highland Maya cities, for example, mimic sacred volcanoes. “The temple buildings have doorways in the tops, where they burned incense, and the rising smoke was used to carry various messages to ancestor spirits and the deities,” Sheets explained. But whether temples at Tikal—where no volcanoes were visible—and other lowland cities were similarly inspired is unclear.Volcanic eruptions also fit into the Maya worldview that life is full of phenomena that can be either hazards or opportunities, and that human behavior can tip the balance, Sheets said. For the Maya, a smoking volcano wasn’t always a harbinger of doom. Humans could turn its ash into a benefit, such as fertilizer or additives to strengthen pottery clay.

Study leader Tankersley emphasizes that the unpredictable mountains, too, were at the crux of Maya culture. “They built temples in the shapes of volcanoes, and their ceremonies replicate volcanic events,” he said.

“To the Maya, volcanoes were part of life—an essential part of their life.”


One could question if this was only for the Maya, or also for the Balinese, the Egyptians and many other cultures and if this cultural aspect of the volcano was related to a worldwide cataclysmic event instead that made them build pyramids modelled after volcanoes all over the world.

Mayan relief what appears to be an exploding volcano. Note the spear/arrow in relation to the earlier hindu tale. 

Teoberto Maler  was an Austrian-born photographer and archaeologist who discovered and photographed a frieze on the main Mayan temple at Tikal, in the Yucatan peninsula of Mexico, which appeared to depict a drowning man and another escaping from sinking land in a boat, while a volcano erupts in the background. Maler was convinced that this was an illustration of the destruction of Atlantis. Unfortunately, he had the frieze removed to the Berlin Museum where it was destroyed in the bombing of World War II.

In 1939, Robert Stacy-Judd included a photo of the frieze in the book “Atlantis mother of all empires”


This, combined with the other evidence presented and links to volcanoes, might be worth further research and considering the link between volcanoes and pyramids as a deep rooted message to future mankind that was the basis for a cult that came after such a deluge and might have been the basis for a global pyramid and temple mount culture.

A temple mount culture that later had the gods on top in form of constellations and resulted in our modern age “religion” of 1 god, the original message and warning and the reasons of the pyramids and Meru shaped temples, lost in time.

This research was published by Stijn van den Hoven  29 April 2018


*Update: 1 June 2018


I learned today that the megalithic site of Gunung Padang in Java also alligns to a stratovolcano.

I noticed Andrew Collins wrote about this specifically and I never saw the article until a recent video from megalithomania conference where he presented this info as well. It just adds to my theory that is presented in this article.

He also briefly mentions Vega to which I have said is the vulture stonevin gobleki tepi while he focused more on Cygnus before.

Again Vega makes an appearance for me in relation to the volcanoes.


From the article of Andrew Collins:

Quote: “Yet clearly visible beyond this hill when viewed from Gunung Padang is a double-peaked stratovolcano, which bears two names: Gunung Pangrango (its western peak, which rises to a height of 3,019 metres) and Gunung Gede (its eastern peak, which rises to a height of 2,958 metres). This lies at a distance of approximately 15 miles (24 miles) from the megalithic complex, clearly in view of the stone settings on all five terraces.”



Other than this I wondered if the site of candi Sukuh was related to volcanoes and indeed it was being build on a slope of a stratovolcano as well.

The 15th century temple of Candi Sukuh, on slopes of Gunung Lawu (strato volcano) , east of Solo, thought to be linked to fertiflity cult, island of Java, Indonesia, Southeast Asia, Asia.


I am still trying to find more sites and looking at the borobodur alignments as well.  To be continued.




El Salvador (under research)

Volcano of Agua
Volcán de Fuego Chi’gag (Mayan for “where the fire is”)
Pacaya volcano near Antigua

volcanoes of El Salvador

– The Izalco Volcano
– The Santa Ana Volcano the Santa Ana Volcano or “Ilamatepec Volcano” (lamatepec in dialect means mother mountain) being the biggest volcano of the area
the volcanic lake “Coatepeque”, cataloged amongst the most beautiful of the world.
– Cerro Verde Volcano
– San Miguel / Volcán Chaparrastique
– San Vicente (also known as Chichontepec or Las Chiches) is a stratovolcano in central El Salvador. It is located next to the town of San Vicente (hence the name) and is the second highest volcano in El Salvador. In the indigenous language Nahuat, Chichontepec means the mountain of the two breasts,because its double summit resembles a woman’s bosom.


Teopan Source:




When the Tehuacan Ecological Park was being built many old and very old pieces of ceramic and formed rock were found. Many of these are found in their viewing room – photos are in the gallery below. A IMG00881-20120802-1719swimming pool was excavated and when it was filled with water, it leaked out over several hours. The floor was examined, a hole was found. It was chipped away to create a hole big enough for persons to lower themselves in. They found a rock-lined tunnel – a tunnel going in the direction of the Tehuacan ruins, a tunnel that runs for who knows how many kilometers. They were not prepared to adequately and safely explore it so they sealed it up and re-filled the stream-fed swimming pool by diverting a stream that flows from a spring up the volcano.


Teopan – Ancestral Home of the Quiches

When the Mayan ancestors left Isla Tigre following the advent of the 3rd sun, marked by a triple star event in 8207 BCE, each of the four lineages went to an island, in order to be safe Teopan paisfrom their fierce enemy the Xibalbhans at Corinto cave who were afraid of water. [Click to enlarge map.] Two lineages remained to the east – the Lenca/Olmeca lineage at Lago Olomega (Teomeka) and the Zapotec lineage at the mouth of the Lempa River (Teoakan). The Quiche lineage and the Ch’orti’ lineage went to the west of El Salvador – the Quiches to Lago Coatepeque(Teopan) and the Ch’orti’s to Lago Güija (Teotipa).

IMG00956-20120805-0638All of the four destination regions are beautiful, but Lago Coatepeque and Teopan are spectacular.


“Joya de Cerén”: (The San Salvador Volcano (also known as El Boquerón) is a stratovolcano situated northwest to the city of San Salvador. The crater has been nearly filled with a relatively newer edifice, the Boquerón volcano.) the famous archaeological site known as “The Pompeii of the Americas”
and declared World Heritage by UNESCO in 1993 for its valuable contribution to daily life
of the ancestors of the Mayan World.

Then continue the tour and visit the ruins of “San Andrés”, a very important ceremonial and
political center that has several structures used by the governors of that civilization.
In this important site there are remains of an Indigo Mill that was buried by the eruption
of El Playon in 1658. Definitely a whole different experience!