In progress: The man/bird and the snake, relations between Hinduism, Budhism and the greeks and Olmecs in symbolism.

Krishna pay attention to the deer. its santas rudolph. the rednosed deer

He is  orion (Mṛgaśiras) with rohini lunar mansion.

“Santa” is a sanskrit word:

Krishna in China, Quan zhou, note the snake/cobra and the deers. Krishna allways has a peacock plume. Its the story of a bird fighting a serpent/dragon. See my Makara paper on


The Hindu God Vishnu and his consort Lakshmi resting on Sheshna.

Vishnu reclining on Shesha, as Brahma is born on a lotus from his navel (palace of Bir Singh Dev, Orchha, early 17th c.)

Brahma is what we see in the indus seal. Shiva Pushphati, a predecessor of Brahma with his 4 faces. which in turn is again the horned god.


It is said that when Adishesa uncoils, time moves forward and creation takes place; when he coils back, the universe ceases to exist.He is also described in Buddhism as Vasuki.

He is known in Chinese and Japanese mythology as being one of the “eight Great Dragon Kings” (八大龍王 Bādà lóngwáng),[1] amongst Nanda (Nagaraja), Upananda, Sagara (Shakara), Takshaka, Balavan, Anavatapta and Utpala.

Takshaka is known in Chinese and Japanese mythology as being one of the “eight Great Dragon Kings” (八大龍王 Hachi Ryuu-ou),[1] amongst Nanda (Nagaraja), Upananda, Sagara (Shakara), Vasuki, Balavan, Anavatapta and Utpala.

These 8 kings preach the lotus sutra


eight great dragon kings
八大竜王 ( Jpn hachidai-ryuo )




I believe this same symbolism is seen in the Olmec art, the man in the snake. Its the story of quetzalcoatl and his brother, good and evil as seen by the mirrors and the atl atl, symbol of tezcaltipoca. Quetzalcoatl is the bird masked man, exactly like the sumerians in contrast to the snake.

I am not 100% sure if the snake is overcoming of desires/evil/poison or represents the universe with the 7 planets./gods where 7 days of week god is time itself.


Budha with cobra hood

The story of hercules fighting the Hydra has vedic origins.

Its the story of Krishna figthing Kaliya!

Not only is this astronomical, Nakshastra as Krishna is Orion and lunar mansion Rohini for his wife. It also directly relates to the Migrashira Nakshastra lunar mansion with Rohini on the side as deer.

Exactly this is depicted on the gundestrup  chauldron. The deer headed man fighting the snake of desires. The dear is Rohini Nakshastra, “Krishnas wife” Not only is this astrological, the whole depiction has clear vedic relations and explations. (but in europe!) note the deer again like santa and krishna.

In Slavic mythology, Perun, the god of storms, slays Veles and Dobrynya Nikitich slays the three-headed dragon Zmey. In Armenian mythology, the god Vahagn slays the dragon Vishap.[92] In Romanian folklore, Făt-Frumos slays the fire-spitting monster Zmeu. In Celtic mythology, Dian Cecht slays Meichi.


Celestial myths

Ancient Greek relief of Helios in his chariot from Athena‘s temple at Ilion dating to the early 4th century BC

The Greek Sun-god Helios, the Hindu god Surya, and the Germanic goddess Sól are all represented as riding in chariots pulled by white horses. The earliest discovered chariots come from the Kurgan culture in southwest Russia, commonly identified as belonging to the Proto-Indo-Europeans.[95]

The myth of the Sun and Moon being swallowed by some kind of predator is also found throughout multiple Indo-European language groups. In Norse mythology, the Sun goddess (Sól) and Moon god (Máni) are swallowed by the wolves Sköll and Hati Hróðvitnisson.[96] In Hinduism, the Sun god (Surya) and Moon god (Chandra) are swallowed by the demon serpents Rahu and Ketu, resulting in eclipses.[97]

Another possible Proto-Indo-European mytheme is one in which the goddess of the dawn is born from the sea following a conflict between a god and his enemy.[98][99] In the Rigveda, the goddess Ushas and a herd of cows are freed from imprisonment after the god Indra slays the multi-headed serpent Vritra.[98][99] A comparable myth in the Greek tradition is the myth of Aphrodite rising from the foam of the sea following Ouranos‘s castration by Kronos.[98]

Krishna overcomes Kaliya

Appolo vs typhon – Greek
Michael vs Dragon – Roman Catholic Church
Hercules and ladon – Greek

Ba`al and Yam
Apep vs Ra – Egypt
Set vs Osiris – Egypt
Sobek vs Horus – Egypt (Horus under the form of a horseman piercing a croco-
dile with his spear.)
Jörmungandr’s vs Thor – Nors
Tiamat vs Marduk or Bel – Sumerian
Typhon vs Zeus – Greek
Midgard Serpent vs Thor – Norsk
Têmtum vs Hadad – Syria
Lôtān vs Baʿal – Canaanite
Levithian vs Jaweh/Hadad – Hebrew
Hydra vs Hercules – Greek
Dragon vs St. George – Europe
Imdugud vs Ninurta – Sumeria
Illuyanka vs Tarhunt – Hittite

Vishnu vs sesha – Indian
Indra Vrtra – Indian
Tarhunt and the dragon Illuyanka

Maat – Isfet

Făt-Frumos – Romanian


Thor vs. Jörmungandr (Norse), Tarḫunz vs. Illuyanka (Hittite), Indra vs. Vritra (Vedic), Θraētaona vs. Aži Dahāka (Avestan), Susano’o vs. Yamata no Orochi (Japanese), Mwindo vs. Kirimu (African), and Zeus vs. Typhon (Greek) among others.[22]

Not only the snake, the tree also appears often here like the biblical story. Golden apples of hesperides, adams apple. Read more on that here:


This is about overcoming desire yet i still believe the god story is astronomical. 7 planets, constellation. seasons. time. the dragon or serpent (and tree of life) is our planetary system. below is a copy paste other explanation which i dont realy agree with. still researching this.

Krishna overcomes Kaliya the dreaded, multi-hooded snake in the River Yamuna and begins to dance on its several hoods. When the heels of Krishna strike the hoods, some break off and then get replaced by new ones. All the while Krishna keeps playing his sweet flute.

Snake Kaliya with its numerous hoods symbolises the numerous desires we have. When one desire gets fulfilled, another arises, like the new hoods of Kaliya. The hoods keep breaking and forming, but Krishna is unperturbed. He keeps playing His flute, denoting the power of discrimination, of wisdom, of the focus on the bliss of Self. The wife of Kaliya prays to Krishna, that is, her prayer in which she desires her husband to come back whole leads to re-creation of the hoods.

Kaliya questions Krishna: “O Lord! You are the Creator. You have created venomous snakes like me; you have also created gods who drink nectar. What is my fault in this? I am poisonous because nature has made me so.” The Srimad Bhagvatam says that on hearing this, Krishna falls silent.

Krishna accepted Kaliya’s words of discrimination. Krishna is the true embodiment of wisdom. He replies: “Alright, I shall not kill you, but please leave this place. You are causing distress to many. My nature is to shower bliss and your acts are an obstruction to that.” Krishna spares Kaliya’s life. He does not kill him or snatch his venom from him, but asks him to go to another place, where perhaps he would learn to use venom only when absolutely necessary, in self-defence.

In the same way, I do not ask you to eliminate desire, anger, greed and delusion that trouble you, but to change their course. You desire to obtain something or the other. Let this yearning be turned to attain God, to obtain inner peace, to yearn for silence and solitude or if you wish to enter public life, yearn for the welfare of the people. The orientation of your yearning, when changed, can lead you to God. The yearning for kama will get sublimated to attainment of Rama. In this manner, your wisdom will be put to good use. The same applies for anger. For how long will you try to suppress it? Just re-channelise it in a different direction. If greed overpowers you, then channelise it towards greed for doing more japa, more meditation, more acts of benevolence and acquiring more divine knowledge. The same goes for other attachments and passions. Sant Tulsidas has said: “Develop attachment towards the Lord, and equanimity towards the world.”

“O Lord, I have experienced these worldly pleasures, now have mercy…” –

Such a prayer shows your discrimination. However great may be the amount of praise, pleasures and comforts you attain – how long will they last and what will remain in the end? Therefore, yearn for real joy, the bliss of Self, the Atman.

Your real Self, the Atman, is bliss personified. If there is sorrow, worry or fear, it is due to lack of discrimination. Keep awakening your power of discrimination. As you grow in discrimination, you will also grow in dispassion and gain the shat-sampatti, the six spiritual wealth of shama or mind control, dama or sense control, titiksha or forbearance, samadhan or freedom from doubt, shraddha or faith and Ishwar-pranidhan or concentration of mind on God.

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