Now look here below. It is Mayan. Two different sites. 😉
Comment Stijn –> I know that answer. It has to do with a warning regarding our cardinal directions. The earth is a turtle. if the direction changes, continents will be on different places and massive upheaval of the earth is due. It is explained also in japanese turtle monuments. The turtle carries the world pillar or mount.
Kaiyuan temple,Zhengding, BIXI turtle
a huge 1200-year-old in Zhengding (Hebei Province) in June 2006. The stone turtle is 8.4 m long, 3.2 m wide, and 2.6 m tall, and weighs 107 tons. It has since been moved to Zhengding’s Kaiyuan Temple.
On these Bixi turtles, “two intertwined dragons” (!) design that was very common on such steles even in the Ming and Qing Dynasties, over a thousand years later.
This pillar with two intertwined snakes, reminds me of the staff of hermes. He crafted he first lyre from a tortoise-shell with 7 strings.
There are many forms of Kame-iwa (亀岩 ) turtle rock- or Kame-ishi turtle stones in Japan, such as the Kame-ishi of Shikoku, Kameiwa-jinja, the Ohno Turtle Rock in Sado Island, but the best known one is the Turtle Rock located in the historic Asuka Village, Nara. This particular mega-sized megalith made of granite was carved into the shape of a tortoise which “currently faces south, but legend has it that it originally faced east and should it ever turn to face the west, the whole of Japan will be reduced to a sea of mud”(according to Asuka Park-Village authorities).
The Turtle Rock pictured above in Asuka Village (together with other megaliths of Asuka village and the Ishibutai dolmen tomb), has allegedly been deciphered as an ancient Star Chart that maps the constellation of Cassiopeia known as Five Emperors by the Chinese astrological-astronomical system (source: Andis Kaulins’ “Stars, Stones and Scholars: The Decipherment of the Megaliths“p. 355).
Gorai Shigeru writes in his paper “Shugendo Lore” of the Kame-ishi of Omine Mountains:
fumu na tataku na Make a detour around it, you who are new
tsue tsuku na to this path,
yokete tore yo
tabi no shinkyaku
O-kame-ism probably has to do with the idea, widespread in Shugendo, that mountain rocks are directly connected with the ocean and with the rise and fall of the tides. This belief ties together the mountain-god cult of Shugendo and the sea-god cult of the coast.”
There is also a Kameiwa sacred rock on Mt. Fuji which is said to look like a turtle crawling on the ground, and which is situated on the left side of the way to the summit from the lodge. The Kame-iwa rock is believed to enshrine Hachidai Ryuo who is a water deity, probably an archaic native deity from pre-Buddhist times, but later assimilated into Buddhist pantheon. The Kameiwa rock has been traditionally maintained by the people of Fujiko faith of Horai-Kan (Horai Inn). Horai-Kan is situated at the 8th station of , 3,150m above sea level.
A new stele marks out the Horai Kameiwa Dairyuzin of Mt Fuji
Where does the practice of turtle rock veneration originate from and what is the meaning behind turtle (tortoise) symbolism?
In southern Japan, there is a mythical tale (said to date back to the 8th century) of Urashima Taro (Older sources such as Nihon Shoki, Man’yōshū and Tango no Kuni Fudoki call him Urashimako), a man who protected a giant sea turtle from some boys who were torturing it. As a reward, the turtle takes the man to meet Ryujin, the King, who resides in Ryugujo, the Undersea Palace of the Dragon God. For his good deed, Urashima gets to marry his daughter, the princess. Other components of the story have Rip van Winkle-like loss of 300 years of his life – elements, and the story has been observed to bear a striking similarity to folktales from other cultures, including the Irish legend of Oisín (which Bryan Sykes has associated with the Y-DNA R1b clans of Oisin) and the earlier Chinese legend of Ranka. (Source: Urashima Taro)
Apart from the Urashima myth and iconic turtle rocks, there is a dearth of recorded turtle myths apart from the odd Jataka tale, compared to Japan’s neighbours, and so in search of an answer and for the closest parallels of similar practices and iconography, we take to examining the various forms of turtle (or tortoise) mythology and iconography that are present in regions adjacent to or surrounding the Japanese archipelago :
We begin first with the most archaic turtle tales and traditions:
Art representations of turtles in Ancient Egypt were common and amulets and magical charms to secure health and life and the warding off of evil were some of the earliest representations of the Nile turtle dating back to pre-dynastic times. Although Turtle deities (such as Ptah’s Shetw (Tortoise, Turtle) do not appear to have been much revered, there were also ceremonial ritual acitivity involving great quantities of turtle and tortoise bones associated with archaeology at the great ceremonial complex at Heirakonpolis in Upper Egypt. In mythology, the turtle was associated with Set and the Underworld(source), and with the enemies of Ra who tried to stop the solar barque as it traveled through the underworld. Since the XIXth Dynasty, and particularly in the Late and Greco-Roman periods, turtles were known to have been ritually speared by kings and nobles as evil creatures. See also a turtle-headed messenger of Osiris from a Theban royal tomb in the Valley of Kings, 1325 BC here.
The tortoise was the symbol of the ancient Greek city of Aegina, on the island by the same name: the seal and coins of the city shows images of tortoises. The word Chelonian comes from the Greek Chelone, a tortoise god. The tortoise was a fertility symbol in Greek and Roman times, and an attribute of Aphrodite/Venus (Source: Cultural depictions of Turtles (Wikipedia)
Early modern accounts: Stacked turtles and the Deluge
In 1854 the discussion or sermon as quoted below, was attributed by bible skeptic Joseph Barker to preacher Joseph Frederick Berg:
Turtles all the way down (Wikimedia Commons photo)
A rather sophisticated use of stacked turtle (or “turtles all the way down”) symbolism turns up in temple architecture, such as in the cremation towers of Bali, Indonesia:
A Nov30, 1961 newspaper reported that the elaborate 60-foot-edifice of a cremation tower of a deceased Balinese king “rested on a base of bamboo poles, perhaps 20 feet square. Eight or 10 life-sized figures stood around the edge of the base, the rest of it being occupied by an enormous turtle. From the back of the turtle rose the tower, story on story,.. ” — The Fredonia Censor, NY
Another early attribution was made in 1838 by L. Vernon Harcourt (in his “The doctrine of the Deluge: vindicating the scriptural account from the doubts which have recently been cast upon it by geological speculations” (1838 London: Longmans. pp. 250) to the tortoise Chukwa supporting Mount Meru. Chukwa is often conflated in Hindu versions with Maha-padma (or Maha-pudma) the world-elephant mentioned in the Ramayana.
Nor was this the earliest record in modern times of the tale, in 1678-1680 Jaspar Danckaerts is said to have recorded the World Turtle myth of the Lenape Delaware Indians as follows
The Huron however have a snapping turtle tale where various animals are sent diving to find earth. Unfortunately all of the animals drown except for toad who makes it back with earth in its mouth, which is then set on the back of the turtle and which then grows into land.
Another native American Indian tradition with the turtle motif is the Iroquois Creation Myth that goes as follows:
One variant version is where the Turtle instead of diving down for earth , is a Creator of land by pushing up the earth from the ocean bed (you could say this is a case of splitting hairs or semantics)… and we find this version among the Austronesian-speaking Orokolo of Kerema in southern New Guinea (see Orokolo genesis: an account of the origin of the world and of the people of Niugini as told in Hiri Motu).
India and its legacy of Vedic or Hindu myths have diverse versions of the world turtle known as Kurma or Kurmaraja, as well as turtle iconographic ideas and symbolism. The Shatapatha Brahmana identifies the earth as its lower shell, the atmosphere as its body and the vault of heaven as its upper shell. A particularly important version is the Legend of the Churning of the Ocean Milk (a.k.a. Samudra manthan myth), is the account where the gods have lost the kingdom of heaven and their immortality and to regain the elixir, they must churn the Ocean, and in which the serpent Vasuki is used as the churning rope, Mount Mandara as the churning staff, and Vishnu taking the form of the turtle Kurma, bore the mountain on his back as they churned the waters from which the elixir of immortality among other things, finally emerge. Japan also has a Churning of the Ocean myth as well but in which the turtle does not feature at all, which could be suggestive of either the easterly limits of the distribution of the turtle cosmology and that since the Japanese Izanagi and Izanami myth cycle that is a type of Ocean Churning myth, pre-dates the version that is seen on the Cambodian Angkor Wat temple reliefs, it may represent the more archaic version before the consolidation of themes, or else … the Turtle actor was transformed en route with the transmission of Buddhism to the edges of East Asia. The story of the Historical Buddha’s birth as a tortoise (in his past lives, before becoming the Buddha) is featured in Indian reliefs of the first gallery balustrade, where a total of five panels present the culminating scenes from a story called the Kaccapavadana. According to Hindu scriptures, the great sage Kasyapa (Sanskrit for tortoise) is the father of Aditya, the Sun. The legacy of the Indo-European or Indo-Iranian solar kings, Kasyapa as a Buddhist motif absorbs the solar symbolism of the Surya-sun princes, and is appropriated as an iconic representation of the past life of the Sakyamuni, who was sometimes called the “Kinsman of the Sun” (Adityabandu).
Close by India is the Santal oral tradition and version (Santals are a Mundaic tribe of Bengal):
“A version of the churning of the Sea of Milk from India is shown in Figure 15.9. Here, the demons appear animal-headed, on the right, holding the heads of Vasuki. Sun, Moon, and Lotus appear below the turtle with a number of other figures, many known in other contexts as asterisms. That may be what is intended here. Turning now to cosmic turtles in other contexts, Figure 15.10a shows the Indian turtle as world supporter, with the cobra wrapped around its neck. The layers of heaven and earth are clearly shown with supporting elephants all surmounted by a pyramid.
“Vishnu’s second avatar was Kurma the Turtle. Kurma the Turtle came to help the Devas obtain the nectar of immortality. To churn the sea into nectar, a giant snake was used as a rope and Mount Mandara was used as a rod. When the mountain began to sink, they called upon Vishnu to help them. He incarnated as a turtle and supported the mountain on his back, so that the nectar of immortality could manifest…” — Turtle Stories
David H Kelley makes a detailed scrutiny of the turtle theme:
(2) the snakes are sometimes dragon-like, and one of them may be five-or seven-headed;
(3) a pillar or tree or lotus on the turtle(s carapace (the snakes are sometimes wrapped around this pillar);
(4) the snake used as a rotator of the pole to stir the Sea of Milk (Milky Way);
(5) opposing “teams ” of “gods and “demons”pulling on the snake;
(6) a god, born from the carapace or from the lotus;
(7) symbols of Sun and Moon, close by;
(8) representations of asterisms, particularly the 28 lunar mansions and the 12 zodiacal signs;
(9) an associated god in dance position;
(10) magic squares, especially those of 3 and 5;
(11) identification of Orion’s Belt as part of the turtle;
(12) association with a fire god;
(13 association with a fire god;
(14) orientation to the cardinal directions.
Manikka (1996 p. 33) points out points out that Kurma was one of the incarnations (avatars) of Vishnu and is described as “half a globe,” She also emphasizes (pp. 36-37) that Varahamihira refers to the Earth as a “ball” in the “starry sphere” and identifies the asuras with the South Pole and the devas with Mt. Sumeru or Meru as the North Pole. She says that Khmers tended to identify Meru with Mt Mandara (mannikka 1996, Ch 2, fn 8, p. 305), but she maintains that “Meru is the north-south axis of the world and Mandara is not”. Mandara is said to be the mountain that was “uprooted and brought to the shores of the Sea of Milk to serve as the churning pivot.” In the context that Mannikka has shown, it would seem that the uprooting of Mt Mandara should have an astronomical significance. It would also seem that the identification of Mandara and Meru might be related to the Khmer contention that Suryavarman II was inaugrating a new World Age–a return tto the conditions before the uprooting of Mandara at the beginning of the Kali-Yuga era.
The above excerpted sections were from Exploring Ancient Skies by David H Kelley
The Chinese tradition of myths has an account of the creator goddess Nüwa cut the legs off the giant sea turtle Ao and used them to prop up the sky after Gong Gong damaged the Buzhou Mountain that had previously supported the heavens.
According to the myth, Gong Gong, a Chinese water god was responsible for the great flood. Gong Gong was ashamed that he lost the fight to claim the throne of heaven that he smashed his head against Mount Buzhou, a pillar holding up the sky. To fix the situation, the goddess Nu Gua cuts off the legs of a sea turtle to take the place of the mountains in propping up the sky. In this sense, the turtle’s shell with the flat underside and the rounded top represents the idea of the flat earth and domed sky. See: Inscribed Landscapes: Travel Writing from Imperial China by Richard E. Strassberg
A bixi holding Kangxi Emperor’s stele near Marco Polo Bridge in Beijing, China
It also has great significance in Chinese Taoist ideas and cosmology. The I-Ching or Book of Changes, an ancient Chinese code, was said to have been inspired by the King Tsang Hieh, when walking along the banks of the river Loh, and a turtle rose from the water and on its back were beautiful markings which suggested to the king all the different combinations of things and so he invented the I-Ching. The turtle is thus probably the inspiration for the sacred geometry behind the I-Ching code. The I-Ching is actually mathematically or geometrically identical in structure to the genetic code – a 64 permutation binary system. In the Taoist tradition, one of the early figures associated with Taoist writings is Fu Hsi ,who is depicted with Ba Gua trigrams as well as a turtle below. Legend has it that Fu Hsi divined the underlying pattern of the cosmos from the strange markings on the back of a turtle (source: The real origin of the Tao by Derek Lin)
Black Tortoise – Genbu / Xuanwu / Hyeonmu / Huyen Vu
On the North-facing wall inside the Takamatsu Zuka Kofun in Asuka Village there is a tomb mural painting of “Genbu” (The Black Tortoise ). In particular, the turtle features importantly in the cosmic scheme of things. In the heavenly world, the Black Tortoise (or more accurately the Dark Warrior of the North) is one of the four celestial animals (Dragon, Phoenix, Tiger and Tortoise) of Chinese constellations, symbols of ancient starry as well as earthly orientations which have survived today as modern Feng Shui practices of the Chinese. It is the guardian of the north quadrant of the heaven known as Genbu in Japan, Xuanwu in Chinese, Hyeonmu in Korean(see below) and Huyền Vũ in Vietnamese. As the Black Warrior, the tortoise was an important emblem for martial arts and warriors. Revered as a powerful and high-ranking Taoist deity who was able to control the elements and capable of great magic, Xuanwu-Genbu was also the patron saint of Hebei, Manchuria, and Mongolia. The Cantonese and Minnan/Hokkien-Fujian peoples who fled south from Hebei during the Song Dynasty, brought their Xuan Wu veneration to Fujian and Guangdong Provinces.
What was the provenance of the Genbu Black Tortoise figure? According to (one version of) the Xuanwu legend:
The North gates of palaces in ancient palaces were commonly named Xuanwu or Genbu gates after the mythological creature. Its element is water and it is considered as significant as the dragon. It is the greatest sign of longevity, stability, steadiness, good fortune, support and protection. Originating from China, the tortoise or the Dark Warrior, standing as a symbol of power, tenacity, and longevity, as well as that of north and winter. The Chinese Imperial Army carried flags with images of dragons(or Cosmic Serpent) and tortoises as symbols of unparalleled power and inaccessibility, as these animals fought with each other but both remained alive. According to Chinese tradition, the dragon cannot break the tortoise and the latter cannot reach the dragon/Heavenly Serpent (one cannot help but wonder … could this have been a reference to the Chinese encounters with and observations of the martial strategies of the Roman army which was said to have used the fishscale-or-turtle carapace formation of defense… or perhaps an early allusion to Greek/Roman forces never reaching China (represented by the Dragon)? (The tortoise was also a fertility symbol of the Greeks and Romans).
The Xuanwu Black Tortoise as a symbolic icon is often placed in the north such as the Han dynasty tile eave protective decoration above.
The Xuanwu Black Tortoise – the astronomical sign for the northern quarter of the sky is also found in the Beijing ancient astronomical observatory, which was built in 1442, but its technology goes further back to the Jin dynasty 1227 when its ancient instruments were transferred from Kaifeng to Beijing. The Black Turtle and Serpent motif is also likely the conflation of two ideas or spheres of influence – showing again the Chinese Taoist love of duality of ideas: the World Turtle (Indic) creation of the earth and Ouranos Cosmic (Heavenly) Serpent (also chthonic in nature), except that the Chinese appear to have moved the Serpent from the deep abyss in the Oceans into the Skies. In any event, the turtle and serpent have been both coopted into the Chinese heavenly design, and become a part of the ancient Chinese constellation Cassiopeia…see Stephen Maeda’s “Snake, Turtle and Sword: Ancient Chinese Constellations Identified” for a serious and detailed treatment of the area.
The Tibetans too practised a sophisticated divination art using tortoise shells (ostensibly of Indian-provenance) as well, as evidenced by sutra drawings on one of the earliest Tibetan texts on Chinese-style astrology – , and kept in the Dunhuang caves’ collection of other Chinese scrolls (see the Golden Turtle). The Tibetans have an interesting variant tale of origins for the turtle called from the depths of the ocean, see the Tibetan Legend of the Golden Tortoise (The Encyclopedia of Tibetan Symbols and Motifs By Robert Beé at p. 115 ):
The turtle clearly has a pivotal role in sacred geometry. In the Encyclopedia of Tibetan symbols and Motifs, it is suggested that the astrological calculation divination system of the Tibetans and Chinese, using the magic square of fifteen attributed to Padmasambhava, may have been transmitted via the Hebrew or semitic Arabic and Western magical traditions.
“The same ideas, in very different form, are incorporated in the Tibetan turtle (Figure 15.10b). This shows one turtle within another. The inner turtle has the magic square of 9 on its plastron and is surrounded by the 12 animals of the rat zodaic....” — Exploring Ancient Skies: A Survey of Ancient and Cultural Astronomy (pp 487-489), by David H. Kelley, Eugene F. Milone, A.F. Aveni
In astronomy, Xuanwu-Genbu is also used to represent seven mansions that show the positions of the moon. The seven mansions are Dipper, Ox, Girl, Emptiness, Rooftop, Encampment, and Wall.
The Hindu-based Tibetan calendric use of solar and lunar symbols may also have been influenced by the alchemical traditions of the Chaldeans and ancient Egyptians. The astrological wheels is said to have been devised by Tibetan Nyingma scholar Khyung Nag Shakdar, and the left protection wheel is inscribed on the underside of a tortoise that holds the four jewels of earth in its hands.
Many cultures particularly in Central to South to East Asia also had versions of the Turtle Cosmology or World Turtle creation myth or practised the veneration of sacred turtle rocks. While the later Genbu tortoise astrological/astronomical ideas originated most likely directly from Tang China as well as via Japan’s neighbour ancient Korean lineages, the earliest ideas of turtle rock veneration appear to be closer to the Central Asian ones such as the ones seen in Baikal-Buryatia and Mongolia below:
Lake Baikal, Siberian-Russia:
Above: The Sacred Turtle Rock, natural boulder of Cherepakha Bay 2.5 miles north of Turka, that resembles a turtle rising out of the water and moving onto the shore of Lake Baikal. (Source: Tahoe-Baikal Institute)
Melkhii Khad site of Mongolia
Karakorum in Mongolia was settled from early times (705) and is associated with the headquarters of Genghis Khan. It was an early centre of sculpture and is known for its many stone sculptures particularly of tortoises. ‘Kara’ means black and ‘korum’ is a corruption of Kunlun, the sacred mountain peak where immortals were thought to reside (source: Karakorum (Britannica).
Longetivity and Cosmological-Afterlife Symbolism
Given the great deal of shared symbolism in respect of the turtle as a symbolic of longevity for the countries, (see Turtles – Asia’s symbols for Longevity); the above-mentioned World Cosmological ideology; the turtle or tortoise as an Afterlife and Underworld guardian figure became a popular iconic choice for tomb stele markers or burial monuments in Central Asia (Mongolia and China), as well as Vietnam, Korea and Japan.
“Turtle-back tomb” in the Lingshan Islamic Cemetery Park of Quanzhou city, southern Fujian China (Photo: Wikimedia Commons)
Turtles from the Yangtse River were thought to have divine powers, and those over a foot long were believed to be a thousand years old. Legend holds that the wooden columns of the Temple of Heaven in Beijing were built on the shells of live tortoises since people thought that these animals were capable of living for more than 3000 years without food or water and are adorned with a magical power that prevents wood from rotting. Turtles are said to be also life-giving symbols associated with archaic female goddess worship of the Queen of Heaven in China, alongside of the toad (Source: Sages and Filial Sons: Mythology and Archaeology in Ancient China pps. 82-83) . During Han Dynasty China, jade pendants shaped like tortoises were popular. And because of ancient Chinese influences upon Japan, honorific titles and badges in Japan often referred to the tortoise or images of tortoises.
Beyond longevity and immortality, ideas of reincarnation and Buddha’s past life as a turtle, and those of Genbu as Black Warrior as a symbol of power and valour as well as its role as one of the four gateway guardian-cardinal directions, apparently made the turtle the obvious choice as a tomb mural subject or tomb marker (see below).
The stone turtle carries stela on its back Văn Miếu in Hanoi, Vietnam.
The earliest types of beliefs revolved around open-air worship of natural spirits which included the veneration of primordial turtle rock, which led to totem worship and magical charms and miniature versions of the turtle rock, or portable amulets. Over time, spiritual beliefs evolved more abstract cosmological concepts and a once widespread worldview incorporating the complex interaction of a myriad of motifs often with multiple roles and functions — the above two megaliths of stela-bearing turtles are clearly visual representations of that ancient worldview of the World Turtle carrying the mountain=Cosmic Pillar.
The continental practice of using tortoise/turtle steles as tomb markers was adopted in Japan as well among the warrior Yoritomo clans of Kamakura Japan, see the tomb of Tomb of Oe Hiromoto (who was Yoritomo Minamoto’s counselor) below. This stele along with another nearby tomb with a similar tortoise-stele marking the tomb of his illegitimate son of Yoritomo Minamoto, Shimazu Tadahisa, are usually different from the continental versions, in that the tortoise is given a snake’s head, no doubt an overt visual reference to the Genbu Black Warrior emblem (Source reference: Shishin | Shijin (Onmark Productions).
(Tomb of Oe Hiromoto, Kamakura; 1225 AD)
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Turtle-back tombs or turtle shell tombs (simplified Chinese: 龟壳墓; traditional Chinese: 龜殼墓; pinyin: guī ké mù; Pe̍h-ōe-jī: ku-khak-bōng; Japanese: 亀甲墓, kamekōbaka) are a particular type of tombs commonly found in some coastal areas of China’s Fujian Province, and in Japan’s Ryūkyū Islands.
In the Chinese version, the tomb itself is made to look like the carapace of a tortoise, the vertical tombstone with the name of the deceased being put where the tortoise would have had its head, at the end of the grave where the feet of the buried body are. The tomb is surrounded by an Ω-shaped ridge, with its opening on the side where the tortoise’s head would have been, and where the tombstone is.
The Ryūkyūan version has the same overall shape and layout, but on a much greater scale, the body of the “tortoise” serving as a family burial vault. more from Wikipedia